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Author:  Dickey [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:52 pm ]
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If this comes up it's worth a look. Quite an inlay job on this classical.

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:43 pm ]
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Wait Bruce, i'll have to turn on my wife's computer to see the rest of the picture! Some inlay job! [;)

Thanks,
Serge

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:50 pm ]
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This is one of those guitars that never gets played, I bet.

Perhaps a bit over the top for my taste.

(Howdy, Bruce! WB.)

Steve

Author:  Dickey [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:59 pm ]
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Howdy Steve, WB ?

Serge, just slide the baby blue bottom bar to the right..... grin. You knew that. That is an optimized photo isn't it. 400KB right here on the OLF, you gotta love the links.

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:13 pm ]
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WB:

A)Whale Blubber
B)Wacky Bureaucrats
C)Wookie Breath
D)Welcome Back

Choose as many as you wish, but I suggest "D".

SteveSteve Kinnaird38725.0987731482

Author:  Dickey [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:17 pm ]
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You and me, lookin' for something interesting to do on a Friday night. Dang. I'm still in my bib overalls too. I did get a neck together today though.

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:03 pm ]
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Bruce, if i slide that baby blue buttom bar, that guitar is gonna end up in my kitchen sink!

Serge

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:06 pm ]
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Steve, about WB, could it stand for E) Wait Bruce

Serge

Author:  rich altieri [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:43 pm ]
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Did you buy this guitar or is this just a [oc from his ebay listing?? Wondering how the quality is overall.

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:23 pm ]
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[QUOTE=Dickey] You and me, lookin' for something interesting to do on a Friday night. Dang. I'm still in my bib overalls too. I did get a neck together today though.[/QUOTE]

Whatcha buildin' now, Bruce? Planning any inlay like the above?

SteveSteve Kinnaird38725.1004861111

Author:  Colin S [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:02 pm ]
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Might look nice on a Chinese cabinet, but on a guitar, no.

Colin

Author:  Dickey [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:49 am ]
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Not building any with inlay. Just thought it was worth a look. It is very Oriental, and probably would make some old fart sell the farm to buy it, especially if Momma liked it.

I liked it just because one must realize how much effort went into it. Not to mention the expense of trying to cover up a very Brazilian Rosewood looking set of wood.

I'm lucky to get the MoP dots on a fingerboard right and put my D on the headstock.

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:19 am ]
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Bruce, i more than agree with you on the amount of work needed to do this beautiful job. I for one did not have the courage yet to inlay my first one!!!!

Serge

Author:  JBreault [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:54 pm ]
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Is that a guitar back or a banjo back?????

And I thought the Martin 1,000,000th guitar was garish.

Author:  clavin [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:44 am ]
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There are two types of inlay. One is thin shell, one is thick shell. Most of what you see in Eastern inlays is thin shell. That explains why there is few if any seeming routing gaps. There is most likely no routing involved. The shell layers are also cut with an exacto knife, not a jewelers saw. It's fast and relatively simple. The shell is laid up, and just finished over. The finish is built up to the shell thickness.

Of course I could be wrong. But that's how those inexpensive furniture pieces are made.

Craig Lavin


Author:  Dickey [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:44 am ]
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I'll bet you are right, the finish does appear thick.

Author:  CarltonM [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:19 am ]
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[QUOTE=clavin] The shell is laid up, and just finished over. The finish is built up to the shell thickness.[/QUOTE]

MOP decals!? What WILL they think of next (to cheapen a venerable craft)?

Author:  Kim [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:37 pm ]
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I have dealt with a guy in Taiwan who produces very similar inlay to this, in so much that a lot of his work is (i will be nice) very thorougher. In fact, what we have above could well be an example of his work.

I think he has the Ebay tag "Inlay Artist", and my own experience is, as long as you accept before you bid that in this world, you only ever really get what you pay for, he has proven to be a fair trader.

This stuff from Taiwan is incredibly cheap to buy when compared to what you would expect to pay for similar standard in the west. An example, I bought a set of bone bridge pins with abalone dot inlay for around $6.00, these look really good and are in fact real bone, the trade off, I had to chuck them in a drill and lathe them down to fit the bridge of the guitar I wanted to fit then to. They had a thicker tapper and higher collar than required.

If I payed myself, I guess I would have been better to pay $28.00 for a set on-line, good thing I am cheap Another example, I had to repair a 1981 Ibanez 12 string after a PO had attempted to replace the original tuners with a full size set of M6 tuners.

Not only did these over size tuners throw the balance of the headstock way out, it would appear from the attached images, they also required the use of a rabid ferret to re drill the post holes.





Any how, it was obvious that after re-shaping the headstock to get rid of the damaged timber, and repairing and re-drilling the over size post holes, this thing would need a headstock overlay.

This is were our friend in Taiwan comes in. $9.00 got me an inlaid rosewood headplate. I can confirm that this was no overlay, the graved gold MOP may well be thin but, it is without a doubt inlaid.

The "only get what you pay for" factor lay in the fact that the rosewood into which the shell had been worked had not been machined flat before work commenced, so there were a few dips and wallows that needed to be levelled out.

This required a little work with a scrapper to put right, which did unfortunately decrease the definition of the graving. But all said and done, as you can see from the photos below, things turned out OK.

So whilst we in the west may find the above instrument to be over the top, it must be remembered that this work was probably done by a craftsman of incredible skill who design was no doubt influenced by a cultural up bringing that we simply do not understand any better than he or she can understand ours











Cheers All

Kim

Author:  Dickey [ Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:41 am ]
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Kim, stunning repair, very creative. Any idea what the oriental characters say? The doves are very artistic. Great job.

Author:  Kim [ Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:36 am ]
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Bruce, thanks for the kind words. I have absolutely no idea what those symbols mean, I hope it is not ofensive...then again that could be a lot of fun just as long as it's not about me Mum Can anyone here help with a translation??? That would be cool

Cheers

Kim

Author:  Dickey [ Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:48 am ]
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PS I hope that guitar in your avatar used waterproof glue and sparvarnish.

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